Last Night's Real Time Shake-up
(via Raw Story)
Who saw Bill Maher last night? It was wild. There were some in the audience who were representing the 9/11 Truthers ...The folks who believe that 9/11 was an inside job. A while back, Bill said some disparaging things about them, because he does not believe their theory. Even if they are wrong, shouldn't he at least give them a forum to discuss and debate this obviously intense issue? I mean, a large percentage of the populous believes it. I would guess that their numbers will grow.
My thoughts about it? So much deception has been perpetrated upon us all.
Is it that much of a mental stretch to at least wonder about the details. Like the collapse of Building 7 ,for instance? It's abundantly clear that there will always be Americans who are just not willing to entertain such scary, controversial ideas. I've learned a lot about that phenomenon, these last six or so years. This conclusion breaks my heart. Especially seeing it occur in some that I know and love. Battle lines have been quietly drawn. Us and them, to some degree. Even (my beloved) Bill Maher has chosen a side. Why is he afraid to talk about it? He discussed Ellen Degenerates meltdown, for fuck's sake. Obviously, Maher answers to big media. His bosses. He is certainly not as liberal as he claims to be.
While I am not (yet) 100% convinced about the Truthers theories, I absolutely believe that this insane government will do anything necessary to achieve it's goal of Middle East domination. Anything. What do you think? The link up there takes you to last evening's shake-up. Something tells me we have not seen the last of civil disobedience like this. Especially on live shows. When people get pissed-off enough about not being heard, they eventually rise up and fight for it. Remember?
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911 NEVER HAPPENED you are the victims of a hoax, Belive it if you need it or leave it if you dare
I saw a 9/11 conspiracy theory programme on TV a week or so back and sat shaking my head and tutting through most of it and then this guy produced a document that proved the US Government disucussed blowing up an American ship or maybe a plane in the 60s and blaming it on the Cubans in order to invade them.
Have to admit, did may be go hmmm.
There was a documentary about this last month and we watched it. I used to think that there was a possibility that the "truthers" could be right, but after seeing the documentary I changed my mind. Building 7 collapsed b/c of the way the trusses were positioned and it suffered a lot of damage. The only way for it to fall was straight down, based on the way it was built. Still, the theories were interesting.
silly jim! you can't fool me. it happened alright, but i have many suspicions about it that have yet to be understood. one thing for sure-i will never buy into the governments explanation about anything. they lie.
I just watched the Maher video on Huffington Post. I don't know what really happened on 9/11. The way the Bush administration has used it and derived more power from it certainly makes it seem like could have been inside job. That and the the whole physics of the collapse. But even if that were all true, I think Maher's observation that the word "audience" means to listen was a good one. Shouting at Bill Maher seems absurd. He has no power, he didn't make the buildings fall. Even if he doesn't believe that all of it was an inside conspiracy, so what? It make the shouters seem petulant and ridiculous. I'd rather see them smash Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity.
the problem with bill, which makes hi basically the same as rush and their ilk, is that he is ultimately controlled by the media he works for.
i think this is a case of him being told in no uncertain terms, to avoid certain "areas" of discussion. i once had the utmost repect for him. now, not so much. i distrust them all. ain't life grand?
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I don't have your email address, so I am letting you know via a comment.
Damnit. I am so pissed.
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I am not a fan of Maher's. I find something arrogant and condescending about him. That, and he once considered Ann Coulter a true friend, and he has a sexist nearly misogynist contempt for women. I understand the passion of the few in the audience who wanted to talk about 9/11, but I don't think they do their cause any good by disrupting the show. I would rather see them disrupt congress. Bill Maher is just a small, big-mouthed guy on TV. I don't know why he doesn't want to talk about 9/11, although it just occurred to me he lost his job with ABC when he spoke up once.
no- it isn't a far leap of faith to believe that our 'government' made up of liars, bullies, thieves, swindlers, and murderers- who went into iraq with the clear intent to war profit- would collude with saudis or whoever to provide a 'terrorist' attack. i have done much research on the neo cons and pnac- the whole nine. it isn't that far fetched- which is why the msm- controlled by corporate neo cons- want it silenced as crazy.
Well, I watched the full-length video of the Theory, the one with so many details (and posted it but can't find it at the moment). My overwhelming feeling was that it looked like solid evidence and that the leap required was to accept the vast scale of the planning involved. Sadly, for me there is no great leap to accept that a government can be evil. I see no great difference between a government that can force women to exist under tents and a government that can cause the death of its own people to further a crusade.
The old question "Who benefits?" doesn't always point to the guilty party... but it's an interesting question to ask nonetheless.
Like you, I suspect WTC7 was pulled.
And I also think that there are only two main options in terms of what you can believe happened that day.
You either believe in a conspiracy theory involving (at least) prior knowledge on the part of the authorities...
...OR you can believe in the official story, which is a conpiracy theory AND a coincidence theory rolled into one... (the conspiracy being the actions of the hijackers and their backers, the coincidence being all the different people who had to be similarly incompetent all on the same morning, in order for the attack to wreak such destruction).
On the one hand, I think the government is too disorganized to pull something like this. On the other, look at the Gulf of Tonkin. They got us into Vietnam on a lie, as well.
I think it's plausible...but I've also heard wild stuff that some of the hijackers are actually alive and living somewhere...haven't see the proof of that.
Bldg. 7 does confuse the hell out of me, though. It wasn't hit. So why did it fall?
p.s...I'm beginning to believe that the only reason we have not captured Bin Laden is the long-standing friendship between the Bin Ladens and the Bushes. The man is over six feet tall and needs intensive medical treatments for god's sake.
While I'm inclined to disagree with the 9-11 Truth people. I think you have a great point. Why not let them have a public forum to discuss their case? What harm can come from it? Who knows, maybe there is something to what they are talking about!
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